diff --git a/openlp/core/lib/serviceitem.py b/openlp/core/lib/serviceitem.py
index 6343eee00..1de76f0a3 100644
--- a/openlp/core/lib/serviceitem.py
+++ b/openlp/core/lib/serviceitem.py
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ import ntpath
 
 from PyQt4 import QtGui
 
-from openlp.core.common import RegistryProperties, Settings, translate, AppLocation
+from openlp.core.common import RegistryProperties, Settings, translate, AppLocation, md5_hash
 from openlp.core.lib import ImageSource, build_icon, clean_tags, expand_tags, create_thumb
 
 log = logging.getLogger(__name__)
@@ -326,6 +326,12 @@ class ServiceItem(RegistryProperties):
         # If the item should have a display title but this frame doesn't have one, we make one up
         if self.is_capable(ItemCapabilities.HasDisplayTitle) and not display_title:
             display_title = translate('OpenLP.ServiceItem', '[slide %d]') % (len(self._raw_frames) + 1)
+        # Update image path to match servicemanager location if file was loaded from service
+        if image and not self.has_original_files and self.name == 'presentations':
+            file_location = os.path.join(path, file_name)
+            file_location_hash = md5_hash(file_location.encode('utf-8'))
+            image = os.path.join(AppLocation.get_section_data_path(self.name), 'thumbnails',
+                                 file_location_hash, ntpath.basename(image))
         self._raw_frames.append({'title': file_name, 'image': image, 'path': path,
                                  'display_title': display_title, 'notes': notes})
         self._new_item()
diff --git a/openlp/core/ui/mainwindow.py b/openlp/core/ui/mainwindow.py
index 3b6a4b2c7..6ac62c32a 100644
--- a/openlp/core/ui/mainwindow.py
+++ b/openlp/core/ui/mainwindow.py
@@ -1106,8 +1106,6 @@ class MainWindow(QtGui.QMainWindow, Ui_MainWindow, RegistryProperties):
         self.image_manager.stop_manager = True
         while self.image_manager.image_thread.isRunning():
             time.sleep(0.1)
-        # Clean temporary files used by services
-        self.service_manager_contents.clean_up()
         if save_settings:
             if Settings().value('advanced/save current plugin'):
                 Settings().setValue('advanced/current media plugin', self.media_tool_box.currentIndex())
@@ -1124,6 +1122,8 @@ class MainWindow(QtGui.QMainWindow, Ui_MainWindow, RegistryProperties):
         if self.live_controller.display:
             self.live_controller.display.close()
             self.live_controller.display = None
+        # Clean temporary files used by services
+        self.service_manager_contents.clean_up()
         if is_win():
             # Needed for Windows to stop crashes on exit
             Registry().remove('application')
diff --git a/openlp/core/utils/__init__.py b/openlp/core/utils/__init__.py
index ea896fad7..974db7b06 100644
--- a/openlp/core/utils/__init__.py
+++ b/openlp/core/utils/__init__.py
@@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ The :mod:`openlp.core.utils` module provides the utility libraries for OpenLP.
 """
 from datetime import datetime
 from distutils.version import LooseVersion
+from http.client import HTTPException
 import logging
 import locale
 import os
@@ -414,6 +415,11 @@ def get_web_page(url, header=None, update_openlp=False):
             page = None
             if retries > CONNECTION_RETRIES:
                 raise
+        except socket.gaierror:
+            log.exception('Socket gaierror: {}'.format(url))
+            page = None
+            if retries > CONNECTION_RETRIES:
+                raise
         except ConnectionRefusedError:
             log.exception('ConnectionRefused: {}'.format(url))
             page = None
@@ -425,6 +431,11 @@ def get_web_page(url, header=None, update_openlp=False):
             page = None
             if retries > CONNECTION_RETRIES:
                 raise
+        except HTTPException:
+            log.exception('HTTPException error: {}'.format(url))
+            page = None
+            if retries > CONNECTION_RETRIES:
+                raise
         except:
             # Don't know what's happening, so reraise the original
             raise
diff --git a/openlp/plugins/bibles/lib/http.py b/openlp/plugins/bibles/lib/http.py
index fbf18d98e..7cb13df3d 100644
--- a/openlp/plugins/bibles/lib/http.py
+++ b/openlp/plugins/bibles/lib/http.py
@@ -748,7 +748,10 @@ def get_soup_for_bible_ref(reference_url, header=None, pre_parse_regex=None, pre
     """
     if not reference_url:
         return None
-    page = get_web_page(reference_url, header, True)
+    try:
+        page = get_web_page(reference_url, header, True)
+    except:
+        page = None
     if not page:
         send_error_message('download')
         return None
diff --git a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/impresscontroller.py b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/impresscontroller.py
index d70dfc8a4..0f3574459 100644
--- a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/impresscontroller.py
+++ b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/impresscontroller.py
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ import logging
 import os
 import time
 
-from openlp.core.common import is_win
+from openlp.core.common import is_win, Registry
 
 if is_win():
     from win32com.client import Dispatch
@@ -231,21 +231,13 @@ class ImpressDocument(PresentationDocument):
             return False
         self.desktop = desktop
         properties = []
-        if not is_win():
-            # Recent versions of Impress on Windows won't start the presentation if it starts as minimized. It seems OK
-            # on Linux though.
-            properties.append(self.create_property('Minimized', True))
+        properties.append(self.create_property('Hidden', True))
         properties = tuple(properties)
         try:
             self.document = desktop.loadComponentFromURL(url, '_blank', 0, properties)
         except:
             log.warning('Failed to load presentation %s' % url)
             return False
-        if is_win():
-            # As we can't start minimized the Impress window gets in the way.
-            # Either window.setPosSize(0, 0, 200, 400, 12) or .setVisible(False)
-            window = self.document.getCurrentController().getFrame().getContainerWindow()
-            window.setVisible(False)
         self.presentation = self.document.getPresentation()
         self.presentation.Display = ScreenList().current['number'] + 1
         self.control = None
@@ -382,6 +374,8 @@ class ImpressDocument(PresentationDocument):
         """
         log.debug('start presentation OpenOffice')
         if self.control is None or not self.control.isRunning():
+            window = self.document.getCurrentController().getFrame().getContainerWindow()
+            window.setVisible(True)
             self.presentation.start()
             self.control = self.presentation.getController()
             # start() returns before the Component is ready. Try for 15 seconds.
@@ -390,9 +384,13 @@ class ImpressDocument(PresentationDocument):
                 time.sleep(0.1)
                 sleep_count += 1
                 self.control = self.presentation.getController()
+            window.setVisible(False)
         else:
             self.control.activate()
             self.goto_slide(1)
+        # Make sure impress doesn't steal focus, unless we're on a single screen setup
+        if len(ScreenList().screen_list) > 1:
+            Registry().get('main_window').activateWindow()
 
     def get_slide_number(self):
         """
diff --git a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/mediaitem.py b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/mediaitem.py
index 63fd20ba5..b031da203 100644
--- a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/mediaitem.py
+++ b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/mediaitem.py
@@ -281,6 +281,7 @@ class PresentationMediaItem(MediaManagerItem):
             service_item.add_capability(ItemCapabilities.CanPreview)
             service_item.add_capability(ItemCapabilities.CanLoop)
             service_item.add_capability(ItemCapabilities.CanAppend)
+            service_item.name = 'images'
             # force a nonexistent theme
             service_item.theme = -1
             for bitem in items:
diff --git a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/messagelistener.py b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/messagelistener.py
index 69a23cc7f..48d5722e0 100644
--- a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/messagelistener.py
+++ b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/messagelistener.py
@@ -243,6 +243,10 @@ class Controller(object):
         Instruct the controller to stop and hide the presentation.
         """
         log.debug('Live = %s, stop' % self.is_live)
+        # The document has not been loaded yet, so don't do anything. This can happen when going live with a
+        # presentation while blanked to desktop.
+        if not self.doc:
+            return
         # Save the current slide number to be able to return to this slide if the presentation is activated again.
         if self.doc.is_active():
             self.doc.slidenumber = self.doc.get_slide_number()
@@ -352,6 +356,7 @@ class MessageListener(object):
             self.controller = controller
         else:
             controller.add_handler(self.controllers[self.handler], file, hide_mode, message[3])
+            self.timer.start()
 
     def slide(self, message):
         """
@@ -423,6 +428,7 @@ class MessageListener(object):
         is_live = message[1]
         if is_live:
             self.live_handler.shutdown()
+            self.timer.stop()
         else:
             self.preview_handler.shutdown()
 
diff --git a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/pdfcontroller.py b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/pdfcontroller.py
index 257d9659e..c16c54205 100644
--- a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/pdfcontroller.py
+++ b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/pdfcontroller.py
@@ -89,11 +89,11 @@ class PdfController(PresentationController):
         # Analyse the output to see it the program is mudraw, ghostscript or neither
         for line in runlog.splitlines():
             decoded_line = line.decode()
-            found_mudraw = re.search('usage: mudraw.*', decoded_line)
+            found_mudraw = re.search('usage: mudraw.*', decoded_line, re.IGNORECASE)
             if found_mudraw:
                 program_type = 'mudraw'
                 break
-            found_gs = re.search('GPL Ghostscript.*', decoded_line)
+            found_gs = re.search('GPL Ghostscript.*', decoded_line, re.IGNORECASE)
             if found_gs:
                 program_type = 'gs'
                 break
@@ -222,8 +222,8 @@ class PdfDocument(PresentationDocument):
                 continue
         # Calculate the ratio from pdf to screen
         if width > 0 and height > 0:
-            width_ratio = size.right() / width
-            height_ratio = size.bottom() / height
+            width_ratio = size.width() / width
+            height_ratio = size.height() / height
             # return the resolution that should be used. 72 is default.
             if width_ratio > height_ratio:
                 return int(height_ratio * 72)
@@ -254,7 +254,7 @@ class PdfDocument(PresentationDocument):
             if not os.path.isdir(self.get_temp_folder()):
                 os.makedirs(self.get_temp_folder())
             if self.controller.mudrawbin:
-                runlog = check_output([self.controller.mudrawbin, '-w', str(size.right()), '-h', str(size.bottom()),
+                runlog = check_output([self.controller.mudrawbin, '-w', str(size.width()), '-h', str(size.height()),
                                        '-o', os.path.join(self.get_temp_folder(), 'mainslide%03d.png'), self.file_path],
                                       startupinfo=self.startupinfo)
             elif self.controller.gsbin:
diff --git a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/powerpointcontroller.py b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/powerpointcontroller.py
index 107ebe4cd..a2e4e1c68 100644
--- a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/powerpointcontroller.py
+++ b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/powerpointcontroller.py
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ import time
 from openlp.core.common import is_win, Settings
 
 if is_win():
-    from win32com.client import DispatchWithEvents
+    from win32com.client import Dispatch
     import win32com
     import win32con
     import winreg
@@ -93,22 +93,9 @@ class PowerpointController(PresentationController):
             """
             Loads PowerPoint process.
             """
-            class PowerPointEvents:
-                """
-                Class to catch events from PowerPoint.
-                """
-                def OnSlideShowNextClick(self, slideshow_window, effect):
-                    """
-                    Occurs on the next click of the slide.
-                    If the main OpenLP window is not in focus force update of the slidecontroller.
-                    """
-                    if not Registry().get('main_window').isActiveWindow():
-                        log.debug('main window is not in focus - should update slidecontroller')
-                        Registry().execute('slidecontroller_live_change', slideshow_window.View.CurrentShowPosition)
-
             log.debug('start_process')
             if not self.process:
-                self.process = DispatchWithEvents('PowerPoint.Application', PowerPointEvents)
+                self.process = Dispatch('PowerPoint.Application')
 
         def kill(self):
             """
@@ -330,6 +317,7 @@ class PowerpointDocument(PresentationDocument):
             """
             log.debug('start_presentation')
             # SlideShowWindow measures its size/position by points, not pixels
+            # https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn528846.aspx
             try:
                 dpi = win32ui.GetActiveWindow().GetDC().GetDeviceCaps(88)
             except win32ui.error:
@@ -378,8 +366,9 @@ class PowerpointDocument(PresentationDocument):
         log.debug('compare size:  %d and %d, %d and %d, %d and %d, %d and %d'
                   % (size.y(), top, size.height(), (bottom - top), size.x(), left, size.width(), (right - left)))
         log.debug('window title: %s' % window_title)
+        filename_root, filename_ext = os.path.splitext(os.path.basename(self.file_path))
         if size.y() == top and size.height() == (bottom - top) and size.x() == left and \
-                size.width() == (right - left) and os.path.basename(self.file_path) in window_title:
+                size.width() == (right - left) and filename_root in window_title:
             log.debug('Found a match and will save the handle')
             self.presentation_hwnd = hwnd
             # Stop powerpoint from flashing in the taskbar
diff --git a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/presentationtab.py b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/presentationtab.py
index a93ceb7b9..f15012c70 100644
--- a/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/presentationtab.py
+++ b/openlp/plugins/presentations/lib/presentationtab.py
@@ -128,7 +128,8 @@ class PresentationTab(SettingsTab):
                       'Clicking on a selected slide in the slidecontroller advances to next effect.'))
         self.ppt_window_check_box.setText(
             translate('PresentationPlugin.PresentationTab',
-                      'Let PowerPoint control the size and position of the presentation window.'))
+                      'Let PowerPoint control the size and position of the presentation window '
+                      '(workaround for Windows 8 scaling issue).'))
         self.pdf_program_check_box.setText(
             translate('PresentationPlugin.PresentationTab', 'Use given full path for mudraw or ghostscript binary:'))
 
diff --git a/tests/functional/openlp_core_lib/test_serviceitem.py b/tests/functional/openlp_core_lib/test_serviceitem.py
index 23126ab56..db8df267f 100644
--- a/tests/functional/openlp_core_lib/test_serviceitem.py
+++ b/tests/functional/openlp_core_lib/test_serviceitem.py
@@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ from unittest import TestCase
 from tests.functional import MagicMock, patch
 from tests.utils import assert_length, convert_file_service_item
 
-from openlp.core.common import Registry
+from openlp.core.common import Registry, md5_hash
 from openlp.core.lib import ItemCapabilities, ServiceItem, ServiceItemType
 
 VERSE = 'The Lord said to {r}Noah{/r}: \n'\
@@ -244,6 +244,33 @@ class TestServiceItem(TestCase):
         self.assertEqual(service_item.service_item_type, ServiceItemType.Command, 'It should be a Command')
         self.assertEqual(service_item.get_frames()[0], frame, 'Frames should match')
 
+    @patch('openlp.core.lib.serviceitem.AppLocation.get_section_data_path')
+    def add_from_command_for_a_presentation_thumb_test(self, mocked_get_section_data_path):
+        """
+        Test the Service Item - adding a presentation, and updating the thumb path
+        """
+        # GIVEN: A service item, a mocked AppLocation and presentation data
+        mocked_get_section_data_path.return_value = os.path.join('mocked', 'section', 'path')
+        service_item = ServiceItem(None)
+        service_item.has_original_files = False
+        service_item.name = 'presentations'
+        presentation_name = 'test.pptx'
+        thumb = os.path.join('tmp', 'test', 'thumb.png')
+        display_title = 'DisplayTitle'
+        notes = 'Note1\nNote2\n'
+        expected_thumb_path = os.path.join('mocked', 'section', 'path', 'thumbnails',
+                                           md5_hash(os.path.join(TEST_PATH, presentation_name).encode('utf-8')),
+                                           'thumb.png')
+        frame = {'title': presentation_name, 'image': expected_thumb_path, 'path': TEST_PATH,
+                 'display_title': display_title, 'notes': notes}
+
+        # WHEN: adding presentation to service_item
+        service_item.add_from_command(TEST_PATH, presentation_name, thumb, display_title, notes)
+
+        # THEN: verify that it is setup as a Command and that the frame data matches
+        self.assertEqual(service_item.service_item_type, ServiceItemType.Command, 'It should be a Command')
+        self.assertEqual(service_item.get_frames()[0], frame, 'Frames should match')
+
     def service_item_load_optical_media_from_service_test(self):
         """
         Test the Service Item - load an optical media item
diff --git a/tests/functional/openlp_plugins/presentations/test_pdfcontroller.py b/tests/functional/openlp_plugins/presentations/test_pdfcontroller.py
index 903f15119..a7b93f1da 100644
--- a/tests/functional/openlp_plugins/presentations/test_pdfcontroller.py
+++ b/tests/functional/openlp_plugins/presentations/test_pdfcontroller.py
@@ -135,5 +135,5 @@ class TestPdfController(TestCase, TestMixin):
             self.assertEqual(760, image.height(), 'The height should be 760')
             self.assertEqual(537, image.width(), 'The width should be 537')
         else:
-            self.assertEqual(767, image.height(), 'The height should be 767')
+            self.assertEqual(768, image.height(), 'The height should be 768')
             self.assertEqual(543, image.width(), 'The width should be 543')